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posted: 05-24-03

interview: tadah

 
Christian Rap is a no-term. Not appreciated by anyone, it's still forced on anyone talking about it, as well as anybody who's doing something that's considered, well, Christian Rap. In a series of interviews, urbansmarts delves into the subject, to hear the people talk the talk, that walk the walk.
Today we meet KJ-52, Florida resident and man behind the "7th Ave." and "Collaborations" albums.
 
Please introduce yourself.
I'm KJ-52.
Can you tell us what the meaning is behind the name?
KJ is an old rap name abbreviated. The 52 refers to the five loaves and two fish (John 6:9). In that story, Jesus took the little that one boy gave - five loaves and two fish - and multiplied it. In the same way I gave what little I had - my talents - and he multiplied it to feed the masses so to speak.

 
Where are you from?
Florida.
How do you like it there?
Warm weather, old people and cockroaches. What more could I ask for?
What records have you put out?
Two solo albums and a rapcore side project called "Peace Of Mind".
Can you introduce the readers to your albums? Like what's on there, what you talk about, who you were working with, etc.
"7th Ave." was my first album. It features Cross Movement, Knowdaverbs, Grits. It's basically my intro. to the industry. Most of it was done independently and then I got signed and it was beefed up and sent out. My second album was "Collaborations". It's just that: a collabo. type LP. Not every song is a collabo. but most are. If you want to know more, the best thing is to go to www.kj52.com.
What records have you been on?
Too many to list!
Can you give us a rough number on how many? (smile)
There are at least 20-30 or so.
Have all these collaborations been due to people asking you to be on a track, or did you go out to get on peoples song?
A little bit of both. When I first started I was just really trying to get out there. So I jumped on anything. Now I'm a lot more selective.
The 'scene', is most often referred to as 'Christian Hip Hop'. Now, as I understand it, this term is not really enjoyed. Why?
Personally I don't really care either way. Call it what you want.
There are other terms like 'faith rap' or 'holy hip-hop'. Would you like either of the two better?
Uhhh 'faith rap' sounds a little cheesy. 'Holy hip-hop'?? I'm not sure. Like I said: labels aren't really an issue with me.
But you understand the need of some people that have to call it something?
Definitely. That's why I don't bug out or make it my personal crusade to banish the word 'Christian hip-hop'.
Could you be uncomfortable with the term, if it'd separate you too much from the secular hip-hop?
Yeah, I see the point but I look at it like this: good music is good music. No matter what label you slap on it. I just try to do that and leave it at that.
Do you feel like there's a 'circle' or a 'scene' of like minded people?
Definitely. It's small but big enough to support small conventions, radio shows and the like.
I never heard anyone mention conventions, so what can you tell us about those?
There's been smaller sized scattered conventions over the years but the most I've ever seen at these have been 200-400 people at the max. That's also why you haven't heard of them.
Is the 'scene' mainly national or is there also a local one?
Both. It seems like every town I go to, big or Podunk, seems to have someone rapping.
Is it just a 'circle' or an actual 'support network'?
It's more of a circle than a network, except for those who are really working hard and are selling units. It's too small to really support. Most cats are part time in it
Including you? Are you part time in it too? And if so, what fills the rest of your days?
Nah. I've been full time for three years or so.
Does the circle make it easier for you?
No, it takes a lot of hard work.
Does beef exist in this 'scene'?
Yes, unfortunately. But nowhere near the level of the mainstream side.
On your album "Collaborations" you have a song called "Dear Slim". Maybe you can tell something about that, and also how this song is perceived.
It's perceived many different way but ninety percent is positive. It's just basically me writing to Eminem from my perspective, dealing with issues that I think are relevant.

Who do you see as the pioneers of this Christian hip-hop?
SFC, PID, Apocalypse, Dynamic Twins, Freedom Of Soul.
Who do you see as leading figures today?
Grits, Crossmovement, John Rueben, Gospel Gangstas, T Bone and myself.
How do you see your role in it?
I'm just doing my thing and try to be faithful to what God wants me to do.
Is it more important to you to be considered to be a good artists, or to serve God with your art?
Both.
How do you see the level of attention that your music, and the one of the 'scene' receives?
I think it's a little more accepted than the average artist, because I've been embraced by the mainline average everyday kids. That's helped me to go a little farther than the average group
What do you mean by 'mainline average everyday' kids? Are they still hip hop fans or do you mean, that you reached a lot of non-hip-hop fans?
Not necessarily the hardcore serious hip-hop fans, just everyday kids. The one's who are buying everything out there from rock to pop. Most are hip-hop fans they are just not into the culture.
Does the 'scene' impose restrictions on the way you do your music (i.e. obligation of a certain positivity, etc.)?
A little bit...
In what way?
Well, there is a certain amount of spoon feeding that you have to do in this industry. Meaning the way you look, talk, songs, etc.
Does being a believing person prevent you from centering your mind around bling bling, and other evils of today's mainstream hip-hop?
Of course! I have a whole different frame of mind.
Does this mean, that this could be a reason, why your rap seems to be upholding the values of hip-hop more than the mainstream rap?
Probably. Most cats in our biz are a little more centered on the elements cause we don't have to be distracted with the regurgitated themes prevalent in hip hop.
How have you been introduced to hip-hop? How's your hip-hop history?
I grew up on it. I was breaking as a kid. Later on got into the conscious side of things, like Public Enemy and BDP. But I always loved the party aspect too, like Kid-N-Play, etc.
Do you think that your music, also considering the strength of the Christian movement in politics, that in terms of major success, will be getting very big, very soon?
It will depend on the industry and the artists behind it.
Is there an audience that is especially supportive to the records and performances, more so than the secular hip-hop audience?
Yeah. But it's taking time to dig them out. It's coming along. We're not where we need to be yet, but we are getting there.
How do you view the current political influence of conservative Christianity?
I don't even pay attention to it (smile).
It's not followed in your community, that the current president is a strong conservative Christian, who is basing his actions on his Christian moral?
If you mean the Christian community then yes. I' m glad to have my President believe the way I do. But morality is morality, plain and simple. I'm glad in that aspect, but I'm somewhat removed from politics.
Do you feel that the youth has some misconceptions about Christianity and about being a Christian?
Definitely. But it's more our culture than anything. They think you have to be a certain way when it's not even biblical.
What's the biggest service Christianity offers to your community?
The life changing message of Jesus Christ. It can change others the way it changed me.
How important is it to you to work with likeminded people, as far as the strength of faith concerns?
It's important, but I try not to pigeonhole myself neither.
Do you think it's possible to write sermons as raps? Or raps as sermons?
Possibly??
To word it different: While many speak about their faith and beliefs, few seem to give something like a Bible studies rhyme. How come and how do you see that?
Well, you can take some of my stuff and turn it into a Bible study. But it might be hard to just write a strictly Bible study rap without it sounding cheesy.
A lot of people seem to separate between faith and religion? Do you?
Yes. Religion is rules and regulations followed out of tradition or obligation. Faith is a personal relationship.
Does this mean that Religion, including Christianity, could have flaws?
Religion yes. Christianity no.
How much of an awareness is there about the differences of people's religious background: Methodist, Catholic, Baptists, etc?
I do events with all kinds of denominations.
What's your opinion on other religions like Islam, Buddhism, etc?
There is elements of truth in all religions, but I believe Jesus is the only way.
How do you deal with scientific findings that dispute what's written in the bible?
I would have to look at each one individually and deal with it that way.
So you would be willing to consider that there might be some error in the bible?
Would you be willing to consider that there is none? (smiles) I believe that there could be minor copying errors in manuscripts over the years. But I believe the originals are infallible. Trust me bro, I've researched this thoroughly. I didn't come from a church background, I came from a atheistic, skeptical non Christian upbringing. Whatever particular errors your speaking on I would have to deal with on a one on one basis.
Do you feel like an alien in your circles: in the circle of hip-hop as well as your circle of faith as being hip hoppers?
Yes, unfortunately. Sometimes you feel like you got too much church for the world and too much world for the church.
Do you listen to rap that's outside of the 'faith hip-hop'?
Yes.
Would you be doing rap, if there'd not be this 'faith rap' that you could do?
Probably not.
Why not?
It's not the reason why I do this. Only what's for Christ is going to last, in my opinion (smiles). So outside of that, it's wasted time for me for the most part.
A lot of you are married? Do you think that's a coincidence?
I am. I think that's cause believers honor the institution of marriage.
Okay, to wrap this up, thanks and please end this with your final comment as well as shout outs if you'd like to.
Shout out to tadah and Urban Smarts. Thanks for the hookup. God bless...
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